Memories
Submitted by T. Pattison via
email
I have a story. I can remember heading to the mall on
Friday and Saturday nights to “Cruise” . We would do lap after lap around
the mall trying to meet as many girls as possible. Occasionally we would get “scooted”
by the mall cops and head on down the hill to Burger King to hide for a while.
Then when we thought it was safe we’d head back up the hill to continue on our
quest of meeting girls. They tried to deter this by putting up stop signs
everywhere, but that only helped us in our goal.
Submitted by B. Livingston via email
I was a security guard at the mall for about 2 years. I remember
my first job well. I also met my first husband at work when he too was working
as a store security guard. We married and had 3 children. He passed away over 6
years ago. I remarried to a man who helped transport materials in to build the
mall. I too have fond memories of the richland mall both as an employee and as a
teenager “hanging out” there.
Submitted by F. Wertz via email
First of all let me congratulate you on the
willingness to take on such a project. Personal webmaster experience tells
me that it is no simple task.
I am a long time member (since 1974) of
the Flood City Corvette Club of Johnstown where I served as an officer through
much of that time.
As a club, we sponsored, set up, and conducted week long displays of locally
owned Corvettes inside the Richland Mall every June for something like 6 or
7 years. Being that I was a semi professional photographer over the same
time period, I have dozens and dozens of photos of our cars inside and outside
of the mall. It would take some digging through some old photo albums and
a lot of scanning to digitize, but if you are interested, I am willing to take
on the project. I can create a file and then put all of the photos into it
as JPEG format, then burn them onto a CD and send it to you.
In addition, an old friend, and fellow
club member and officer, had a small restaurant in the mall during those years.
He and his wife operated a Superchick chicken sandwich franchise. It was
located on the corner just to the left as you were exiting the Kmart into the
mall. If memory serves his location became a National Record Mart when he
got out of it.
On a personal note, I did miss the
fountain/waterfalls at center court. I grew up with a creek literally
outside my bedroom window and found the sounds of the water very relaxing.
It was a major disappointment when it was taken out and replaced by carousal.
It was very nice but just not the same.
Submitted by D. Hull at www.deadmalls.com
In the heart of Crown American's territory, Richland Mall
opened in 1974 with 3 anchors: Sears on one end, Hess's in the middle, and Penn
Traffic Department Store on the other end. Johnstown was a major city at the
time in Western Pennsylvania, and was the only shopping destination between
Altoona and Pittsburgh for many years.
Penn Traffic Department Store was closed (This was owned by the same Penn
Traffic that owns BiLo Foods still in Johnstown and other areas in Western
Pennsylvania, as well as P&C Foods in New York). The space was soon filled
by Kmart.
The mall thrived for years, even with its gaudy circle accents adorning the
ceiling of the mall. In the 1990's, Crown American would find a major problem,
and what would kill this mall.
In 1992, the Zamias Development Company, also based in Johnstown, built the
Johnstown Galleria, located off US 219 about a mile and a half north. The new
mall would be a 2-level mall featuring 4 anchors, luring Sears to the new mall,
bringing The Bon-Ton and Boscov's in, as well as luring JCPenney from University
Park Shopping Center. The new Galleria had a lot of outer retail development, as
Wal-Mart, County Market (later Giant Eagle), Toys "R" Us, Circuit
City, Dunham's Sports (formerly Sun TV), Staples (formerly Family Toy
Warehouse), as well as restaurants like Applebee's, Ponderosa and Red
Lobster.
Richland rushed to renovate losing Sears already, and updated the mall's
coloring brightening the color scheme. However, the circle lighting on the
ceiling would remain. Hess's store at the mall (one of the last to close in the
chain) was sold to The Bon-Ton who would shortly operate a store at the mall, in
addition to the Galleria.
Hills Dept. Stores would move from down on Rt. 56 and their very old store to
the former Sears. The former freestanding Auto Center became a Michaels Crafts,
and Hills prospered here. However, the mall was sagging at that point. The
national chains that called Richland home were leaving for the Galleria, and
mainly niche stores, local stores, and discount stores were filling the mall. It
was hard to sell anything in the mall when Kmart was on end, and Hills was on
the other. In 1998, the mall was closed off. When the Hills was converted into
Ames, Ames plastered over the former mall entrance. Kmart had an interesting
situation as the only access they had was from the mall, so the mall entrances
next to Kmart remained open, and drywall was placed slightly above Kmart,
allowing them some space for seasonal merchandise.
When Ames filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, this store would hit the line of
closings, leaving the 4-screen Cinema attached to the mall, Michaels and Kmart
as the only remaining stores on the site. In 2002, demolition began on the mall.
A plan was unveiled to build Richland Towne Centre, which was originally going
to be the Kmart, Cinema and Michaels remaining, but the closed mall to be
bulldozed for a Wal-Mart Supercenter. The new owners of the site decided they
didn't want Kmart and Wal-Mart on the same site, forcing the Kmart to close in
2003. Everything on site was demolished.
Richland Towne Centre opened in October 2004. It has Wal-Mart Supercenter, a new
theater (odd in that it's the first theater I've seen built in a decade that's
not a massive multiplex). Where Kmart was is now a new Circuit City moving down
from Galleria Hill, a Bed Bath & Beyond, Petco, a new Michaels, Ross, and TJ
Maxx & More.
Johnstown has lost over half its population in the past 30 years, and the
economic base there has eroded. Jobs are nonexistent. The city could no longer
support 2 malls with renovations to Crown American's Logan Valley Mall in nearby
Altoona, as well as expansion to Greensburg's Westmoreland Mall, the closest
competition to Johnstown from the Pittsburgh area. Crown American could not keep
their crown jewel open. Richland Mall was a very expansive 1-level mall for its
time (the largest 1-level mall Crown American ever built), but the Galleria
provided the nail to its coffin.
Submitted by J. Durst at www.deadmalls.com
Before I begin my commentary about the Richland Mall,
I want to correct some facts in the previous commentary. First, Crown American
didn't build the mall; it was built by a Michigan company called Richland Mall
Associates. Also, Hess's was not one of the original anchors.
My first memories of the Richland Mall were going there with my grandmother. The
mall seemed enormous to me when I was little. I still can remember always
getting a soft pretzel at the Hot Sam and having a milkshake at the Sweet
William restaurant. Unfortunately, 30 years later, the mall is just a memory. It
was torn down in 2003.
The Richland Mall opened in 1974. The mall was not your typical 70’s era mall.
Yes, there were splashes of orange and yellow on the ceiling, and red, blue, and
yellow brick on the entrance/center court pillars, but there wasn’t any wood
anywhere. The mall’s design was very unusual. The ceiling was plaster that
mimicked the serpentine, brown/white flooring. There were five foliage areas in
the mall. These areas also had a serpentine design. The center court was
spectacular. It was at least ten feet below the level of the mall. You could
either go down steps or a ramp to get there. The fountain area, down in the
court, was unlike anything I have ever seen. It was not a regular fountain, but
various waterfalls made out of real boulders. I would stand there for hours just
watching the different falls and tossing my pennies in. When you were down
there, you felt like you were in another world. When you looked up, you could
see yourself in the glass-tiled ceiling. The outside of the mall was all beige
brick, except for the Sears store, which was a darker kind of brick.
When the mall opened, there were three anchors: Sears, Kmart, and PennTraffic (a
local store). Sears Automotive was in an outparcel near the Sears store. There
was also a Shop n’ Save supermarket attached to the mall near the Kmart side.
There was a two-screen theater inside the mall. The only restaurant outside was
Patriot Steakhouse, which later became Ponderosa. The mall’s original tenants
were very diverse. They included National Record Mart, Ormond, Gordon’s
Jewelry, Stanyan Street, KarmelKorn, Spencer Gifts, Motherhood Maternity,
Brooks, Sweet William, Time Out (arcade), Orange Julius, McDonald’s, Hanover
Shoes, Kinney Shoes, GNC, Richman Brothers, JoAnn Fabrics, Thom McAn, Hickory
Farms, Waldenbooks/WaldenCards, Teek’s Shoes, Thrift Drug, Harts Home Store,
Bon Ton (not the dept. store), Arthur Treacher’s, and many others. Throughout
the 70’s and early 80’s the mall flourished. Stores came and went as usual.
In the early 80’s the mall was full capacity with stores like Shoe World, The
Bottom Half, monarch’s, Lane Bryant, Naturalizer, Bermans, Foxmoor, Fine’s,
reunion (kind of like The Gap), Hot Sam, Chess King, noname, Susie’s Casuals,
Tobacco Village, Pross, Foot Locker, and The Athlete’s Foot. In 1984, Hess’s
bought PennTraffic and the store was renamed and totally remodeled. Shop n’
Save closed in the mid 80’s. It was a Riverside supermarket for awhile and a
Penn Furniture. A few years later it was converted into an eight screen theater
which killed the two screen theater at the other end of the mall. They remained
vacant for good. Things were still going good at the mall until 1992.
In 1992, The Johnstown Galleria was opened a few miles away. It was a two-level,
glass-gabled mall. It had four anchors: Boscov’s, JCPenney, Sears, and The
Bon-Ton. Hill’s quickly replaced the Sears store. Michael’s Arts &
Crafts occupied the Sears Automotive building. Many stores left the aging mall
for the newer and brighter Galleria. The management of the mall finally decided
to remodel after 15 years. They covered the beige/white floor with pastel tile;
they filled in the center court and put in a carousel; the outside brick was
covered with stucco. It looked great, but it was a little too late. Stores
continued to move or close only to be replaced by service-oriented stores or mom
and pop stores. In the mid 90’s, Hess’s was bought by The Bon-Ton and the
Richland Mall store was converted to The Bon-Ton. Now there were two Bon-Ton’s
within 5 miles of each other; that couldn’t work in this area. In 1998, The
Bon-Ton closed the Richland Mall store because it truly was a dump. It was later
that year that the rest of the stores left the mall. The corridor outside of
Kmart was boarded-up so that you could only get to Kmart. Hill’s, in the
meantime, became Ames. Now you had two anchors on each end of the mall, but you
couldn’t get to them from inside the mall. Ames eventually closed and all that
was left was Kmart, which still actually did a good business, the movie
theaters, and Michael’s. Ponderosa had since moved to a new building near the
Galleria. The mall was truly dead! The old PennTraffic/Hess’s/The Bon-Ton was
vandalized and all the doors were boarded-up. The Ponderosa building had all the
windows smashed out. Also, an odor of stagnant water, mold, and mildew could be
smelled near Kmart coming from the boarded up section leading to the mall. It
was sad to see the mall just falling apart.
In 2000, it was announced that the mall had been sold and would be razed.
Wal-Mart had bought the entire mall property. Of course, they kicked Kmart out
because of obvious reasons. The theaters were to get a new building in the plaza
that Wal-Mart was proposing. The mall was torn down in 2003. The theaters
remained until their new building was constructed and then were torn down. The
new Richland Towne Center opened in October 2004. It had a Wal-Mart Supercenter,
Petco, Bed, Bath, and Beyond, Ross, TJMaxx, Circuit City, and many others. The
only remnants of the old mall that can be seen today is the Michael’s store,
but that will be torn down once Michael’s moves into there new store in the
plaza. One funny thing is that Fashion Bug and a Christian bookstore are in the
new plaza. They were tenants in the old mall and moved back from the Galleria.
Now the Galleria is feeling what the Richland Mall felt years ago. Wal-Mart and
Circuit City left empty stores around the Galleria, but Gander Mountain and Best
Buy are reported to be taking those buildings over.
When I go to the new plaza, it is hard to believe that a mall once stood here.
Sometimes I just sit in my car and remember the numerous shopping adventures at
the Richland Mall and what I wouldn’t give for a Hot Sam pretzel and a box of
KarmelKorn.
Submitted by B. Gustkey Jr at Facebook
I admit that I was a mall dweller. The Richland Mall was my home away from home.
Submitted by J. Collins at Facebook
Im a dweller loved the cruises around the mall and down to scalp on fridays.
Submitted by E. Stiffler at Facebook
I miss Hot Sam pretzles :(
Submitted by J. McKool at Facebook
What about Time-Out. Thats was where all the fun was. I would have to say, class
of 88-89 started the cruising around the mall started. Hot Sam pizza pretzles
are the best!!
Submitted by M. Nemeth at Facebook
I remember walking the lap from time out making the corner at sweet williams to
hess's then to kmart then comming back down the other side.
Submitted by L. Davis at Facebook
I loved Richie the Pook, french fries and gravy at Sweet Williams, Karmel Korn
and K-Mart. Always got my colored Nikes at American Outfitters and went to Rite
Aid to get candy before going to the Duke and Duchess. Frogger and Ms. Pac Man
at Time Out was always the way to end the evening before the mall closed and the
cruising started.
Submitted by L. Stenger at Facebook
loved cinnabon sitting on a stool at the counter...k mart where i got all my
baby-sitters club books...the little dip in the middle where santa sat...and
mcdonalds...my parents would buy us new shoes when we went to the mall for our
dentist visits... gosh i miss that mall...
Submitted by K. Fisher at Facebook
I don't think there was a day that went by that I didn't spend some time at the
mall throughout my teenage years. I can still remember the whole layout of the
place, so sad that it is gone now. I took a brick from the construction site
when they demolished it and keep it on my mantel. I have so many memories from
there. I must agree, no one can beat a Hot Sam's pretzel.
Submitted by S. Devlin at Facebook
I loved the Richland Mall!! One of my best friends at the time worked at Kmart
and she took me to the mall Christmas parties at the Encore! They were awesome.
How about Reunion and Suzi's Casuals??? My first born had his very first
pictures taken at the photo place near Kmart (can't remember the name though). I
miss the Richland Mall!!!
Submitted by L. Fetsko at Facebook
I saw my first R-rated movie there -- All the Right Moves -- at either the Duke
or Duchess. I was in eighth or ninth grade, and my Dad had to take me, LOL!
Capri pizza was the best, and I loved the center court. Didn't they have a
waterfall or at least running water down there?
One of my art projects from 2nd grade was chosen to be hung up in the mall -- it
was a big, posterboard Easter egg, come to think of it, and since I was TERRIBLE
at art I had some girl who sat beside me at school "help" me with my
project. She drew my idea, and all I did was color it, LMAO! And there it was,
hanging from the ceiling in the mall, with my name on it!
Submitted by G. Mace at Facebook
I went to Richland Mall the night it opened....not sure who with. I still have a
Richie the Pook ornament tucked away in my Christmas decorations.
Submitted by M. Yannutz at Facebook
KMart was the superstore! Mmmm... I-CEE's.... and remember that big talking
giant toy-maker robot thing at XMas???? He used to scare the crap out of my
sister.
Submitted by C. DelliCarpini at
Facebook
loved working at burton's men's store...hot sam's pretzels couldn't be
beat...eating at sweet williams and stopping at the frozen yogurt shop on the
corner by kmart with my grandpa when i was REALLY little...it was so sad as
businesses left and the stores just stayed empty...still a shock to see wal-mart
there.